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[City Builder]

Hi everybody.

Some of you may remember when I bought my ATi X1900GT PCIe video card.  I bought it because the performance in Caesar 4 was pretty bad with my old X1300Pro card and it's served me very well with no problems at all.

I don't recall how long I've actually had the ATi video card but it was bought about 3 weeks after Caesar 4 was released and on store shelves.

Well, I've upped my video card once again, this time I've gone out and purchased an Nvidia 8800GTS OC video card that Im quite pleased with both it's stock performance as well as how much more overclocking can be done to it above the manufacturers Overclocking of the card so it's a keeper.  Now the ATi video card needs a new home so Im looking to try to sell it.

The ATi video card was NEVER overclocked and it's always run flawlessly in my computer.

So if you happen to be in the market to get a new video card (err second hand) and have been thinking about teh x19## range of cards then perhaps we can strike up a deal.

I certainly don't expect to get what I paid for it ($349.99 I think) but I also would rather keep it as a spare then let it go for a drop in the bucket if you know what I mean.

Instead of people posting their offers here, please PM me if your interested in purchasing this card and if we can setup a deal that would be great.

I don't know if I have the original box for it or not, but it will be packed in a static bag, and bubble wrapped.  I do however believe that I have the original cabling that came with the card (never used it I dont think) as well as a DVI-VGA adapter for those folks that are running non-digital monitors.

Thanks for reading.
CB.

[MaxBeta]

   That's cool CB.  I also use a model of that card in one of my PCs.  I'm in the finishing phase of my newest Gaming PC.. and somewhere I have a thread on it.. but I have the nVidia Card in it.. I did have to find a motherboard that really allowed the Card to perform.. so this is what I came up with..

Asus Striker Extreme Nvidia nForce 680i Motherboard..and the complimentary EN8800GTX/HTDP/768M -XFX 8800 GTX ..which is certified by ASUS.  Only one other area I managed to bump up was the PSU..I wanted a 1000 watt unit..but settled for a 700watt so I wouldn't need to change the Case. 

I've used ATI for many years..with an occasional nVidia card..and I a happy gamer for it in almost every instance.  Like you I started with the 1300 512 ATI's and they had heating problems.. so why I went to the 1900's.  Now that I have monitors that support these upper core graphics.. I'm even happier than ever.. ah.. but that is what it is all about isn't it?   

I can give my personal recommendation to the hardware..I'm sure that it'll be a good deal for any prospective buyer. 

[City Builder]

Thanks,

I had just bought the Nvidia 8600GTS OC and Im actually on my way out the door to try to return it to Best Buy.  I tried it and the performance was far below the ATi X1900GT so there is no point in keeping that one.  Which made me quite hesitant on buying the 8800 card, but figured I'd take the plunge and give it a try.

To be honest, the performance is just about doubled if not a wee bit more then doubled between the x1900 and the 8800 cards.  That's not to say that the x1900 is a sloucher by any means because it really is a great card.

I looked at some evga 8800 GTX 768MB cards, but Frys was asking something like $649.00 each so I had to pass on that.  I really just don't own enough games that take advantage of SLI to make it worthwhile to spend that kind of money so I opted for this card, and will probably pick up it's twin in the next several months which should be a kick.

Of course you get to the point where you can keep adding numbers into the FPS but you'll never even notice it with the human eye.  I would just like to get my FPS into the tripple digits at the moment, and Im real close now.  I overclocked the overclocked Nvidia card from 550MHz core to 645MHz and the memory from 792MHz to 950Mhz and Im up at 99FPS in Lord of the Rings Online, just need one more notch to get me to the tripple digits.

Anyway, yup, the ATi X1900GT is a really good card in my opinion (if you don't need/want tripple digit FPS).

I was going to get a twin to the x1900gt but then I found out that crossfire has to have a crossfire supported mainboard just like SLI needs a mainboard that supports it.  So I opted to go the Nvidia route even though I havn't had an Nvidia video card in my computers in a couple years now.

[MaxBeta]

  If you are into crunching FPS rates..then it's best to go out and find whatever delivers..I've been there many times.

Yup..Fry's hit me with close to $700 on the 768MB card.. almost a $$-Grand after the MB and Ram to complete the package. 

Crossfire and SLI...do need to have the MBs that will support and give the Cards a good environment to Cool themselves.  Look before you leap.. always help prevent these snags..   

Keep us posted OK?  Happy players UNITE!!

[Unitedcat]

I will try to save up money to buy something like Max have 

Problem is that I need a whole New Computer, because my g/f
must have the computer I have now. She's sitting with a computer
that's 4 years old.

Costly hobby this is 

But there are hobbies that's very much more expensive 

[City Builder]

I knew nothing about SLI or crossfire when they came out other then it allowed me the ability to hook up two video cards and in theory get double the horsepower of one video card.

I had to replace my mainboard late last year after the acer died on me not even a year into ownership (couldnt find receipt), so the local Pc Club gave me a deal on this Lanparty UT Expert NF4 SLI motherboard.  It's the first mainboard that I've owned that has the two PCIe slots on it.  I would never have thought that I'd actually want to ever own 2 video cards in one computer but the more that I read up on it, the more intrigued I am by the technology.

I just added two more 80mm fans to the computer case today, one near the bottom of the case on the door panel, because it allows it to blow in room air right where the video card is, and I noted today when I had the door off the case, that heat was building up right there, so this should help a bit I would think.  Also my case has one of these ducts that goes to where the CPU fan is so that it can pull the cool room air to the cpu, but I removed the duct, and put the second 80mm fan there, but I think it's actually doing the opposite of what I intended because at idle now, the CPU is 10c higher then it is without the fan there, my thought on that would be that it's blowing too hard so it's blowing air at the cpu fan which in theory would then suck the air in and cool the cpu, but it must be blowing too hard against the cpu fan sucking in and causing it to create some kind of deadspot or at the very least work against each other.

But the small fans have 3 settings L,M,H so I'll try it on M and L and see if that does anybetter, plus the benefit of having a fan right there is that it blows room air on the memory sticks too which on this board are poorly designed because they are right next to the cpu, so the cpu blows it's hot air right onto one of the memory sticks.  Not a good design, they should have had some kind of barrier between them.

[MaxBeta]

  Remember CB.. It's not how MANY fans you have.. It's the quality of air flow that counts.  Normally Three Fans ..(not counting your PSU extraction fan).. You should be able to Flush the Case atmospheric environment effectively enough that the conductive heat factor stabilizes within all static components acceptable temp range.

The CPU "tunnel" works well if it doesn't create a barrier in the flow pattern of the two case fans.. Which should be setup to pull IN from the coolest Air source from a Room..and the other Fan should be extracting OUT.  Then you never have any Dead Air..or bouncing heated air all over the inside of your PC case.. As it should be linear directional Flow through..and continual, making the case internal temps remain constant.

CPU's heat up the quickest..GPU's are a close second.. PSU will reach a "running" temp which should remain in it's threshold of operation.  Heavy load from games hit both the CPU and the GPU..so like with SLI and Crossfire..making sure the these dual cards have a fresh supply of Fresh Air is critical.  ATI's biggest problem has been ineffective cooling.. these cards are tough enough to withstand their respective peak heat ranges..and still operate, but a user with a trained eye can distinguish when the cards are struggling..and old timer like you CB know very well that HEAT is the savage killer of any & all PC components..if the door is left open. 

..sorry I got carried away.

*edit*  PS.. UC, maybe you are like me.   New PC's make me smile.. I try to hold the smile for a couple of years..before I need a new one.. ..PC that is

[City Builder]

I've attached a crude drawing of how I theorize the airflow travels through my case.

1. The room temp air enters through the front fan (it's the blue box on the right).
2. Room temp air enters through the 2 80 mm fans on the botton left, this air not only goes into the video cards inlet (which is then exhausted out the back of the computer through the video cards outlet) but it also causes a mass spreading of air when the air hits the mainboard and is then dispersed to where it also intermingles with the air that is brought in from the main fan on the bottom right.
3. Air from the main fan (lower right) is then sucked into a pattern that is sucked out by the rear fan as well as the CPU.
4. In theory the cpu should pull air through the tunnel to cool the cpu with room temperature air, but I don't really think that is the case with the AMD Cool & Quiet CPU's as I don't think they really have enough air pull to pull air from outside of the case through that tunnel.  In stead I think the tunnel is doing nothing but blocking air both from the main front fan to the rear exhaust fan as well as to the cpu, so the cpu just keeps recycling used air.

That's my guess on it anyway.
Also I don't think that the front main fan is all the great because it's got bo blow through some oblong holes in the case that hold the hard drives so not only is it picking up the heat that is from the hard drives but it's not getting full airflow due to having to try to go through the oblong holes.  Sadly there isn't any other place for the main fan on the front of the case.

Might have to pickup another case in 2 weeks over at frys.  They have some "armor" case that has a huge fan on the side, this fan is absolutely massive and it blows constant cooler room temp air into the case across the whole mainboard.  I'd just rather not pay the $189.00 for it at the moment.  Really it's not much different then just removing my cases door and clipping on my deskfan to blow across the inside of the case.  Except that it looks a whole lot neater and cleaner.

I had the cpu running down to 34c today when I removed the fan that I had put inplace of the tunnel so that wasn't any air being forced from outside of the case onto the cpu fan, and the video card was running down at about 57c at idle with the addition of the 2 80mm fans.

I put back in the cpu tunnel and now the cpu is running up about 43 to 47c which of course leads me to believe one of two things... 1 that the cpu tunnel is better suited for those cpu cooling systems that have a whole lot of draw from their own fan, or that 2. It's somehow blocking the cpu from getting much cooler air be that through the tunnel or from the other fans.

It seems this whole system runs cooler when i just remove the tunnell all together, which Im about to do again in a few minutes just to confirm that the temp readings I got earlier were not a fluke.


And of course I can always go into the bios and make it so that the fan of the cpu goes 100% on at like 35c which should make the cpu maintain a lower temperature even if it's not maintaining 35c.  Also had the "system" temperature, whatever system actually refers to I don't know, down to 47c which is the lowest it's ever been, usually it runs at 59c.

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[MaxBeta]

  Looks like you have a good handle on the Heat.. My reported temps stay between 44-46C.. CPU might creep up to 49..then the Fan auto RPM seems to hold it steady.

I cobbled up your Img.. but wanted to point out that if there's a "back wash" of air being pushed toward your Intake fan it will put the brakes on air that needs to going toward the Exhaust outlet.  You get as best as you can..and if the temps are acceptable, you'll be OK.. I never seem to get them just perfect..but I keep trying..

*edit* Might get more volume of air over the 8800 with just a good push of Air from the front..if there were a Fan "pulling" then you might gain on lowering the temps..GPU's at 40 or less is great. 

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[City Builder]

That's kind of what I was thinking as well.  My gpu seems to sit a steady 60-61c when at idle in 2d of windows, but doesn't seem to go above 75-80c when used full blast like in a 3d intense game.  I just raised the cpu fan so that it is on 100% full when the cpu temp is above 35c and now the temp of the cpu sits a pretty constant 38-40c which is fine.  I think in this case's configuration with the layout of the mainboard, the cpu tunnel only covers like 1/4 of the cpu fan, which to me means it's nothing more then another obstacle in the path of the flow of air so it's just best to leave it out and I'll have to remove the last part of it since its a two part tunnel and even though I removed the main scoop of the tunnel, theres still a 1.5 inch part of the tunnel that is left because it bolts onto the plexiglass side door.

Quite possibly if I turn the 2 80mm fans down to M or L, then it might not cause as much turbulence and still provide ample air flow so that the hot air doesn't build up beneath the GPU.

I'll have to give it a try.

Thanks,