Port Royale 2 vs Patrician III?

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[City Builder]

Is Port Royale 2 the same as Patrician III?

I can't get PR2 to run on windows 7 due to the copy protection, however Amazon sells PR2 as a digital download for $5.00 and supposedly it is without the copy protection so it should run on Windows 7, however if PR2 is the same as P3, only with a different name then there's no point to even giving up the $5.00 for it.

Anybody know?

[eagleFMJ]

Although I don't have an answer to your question, did you know steam has the game too =)

Code:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/12470/

I never tried any of these trading games, Patrician, Port Royal etc, I am tempted.  Closest thing to trading I have played is Anno 1404, love that game

[Virmin]

This is a good question.   One I could no doubt awnser for you.   As it happens I not too long ago bought both patricians 3 and Port Royale 2  when they were on sale on steam.   Got Port Royale 2 for $1. 50 and Patricians 3 combined with Darkstar One and The Great Art Race in the Patricians Merchant pack all for $5.   The thing is I have yet to even install any of the games except Patrician 3 which I played a couple times so far.   I'll have to install Port Royale and see what I can discern as being different.   But to be honest I don't think I'm too familiar with all of what Pat 3 offers yet so it would be a very uneducated comparison at this point. 

A little off topic but I thought I would point out for anyone not in-the-know, that Steam has huge sales in the middle of summer and at christmas time that last for weeks.  It was the summer sale where I bought the games I just mentioned.  So although they do have a few sales through each week, if you are really looking to get a paticular game on sale I would wait till christmas and check then.  I'm hoping Dawn of Discovery and Civ 5 are on sale then so that I can get those.  Although expecting Civ 5 to be on sale that soon is probably wishfull thinking lol.

[Virmin]

Ok, I have just a very brief session of both games through the tutorials and these are some things I noticed.  They are deffinitly very simelar games.  In fact, being the noob that I am I would almost be inclined to think that Port Royale 2 is a sequal to Patrician 3 due to its better graphics and much more intuitive interface while generally keeping the same gameplay.  I'ed have to say that Port Roayale 2 certainly appeals to me more for the very fact that it is more intuitive, making it easier for me to find the information I want.

Port Roayale has 5 speed settings starting at the default of 0. 1x and then going up from there to 1x, 5x, 10x and 20x.  Regardless your speed setting you can always hold the space bar down to make things go at 100x for as long as you hold the space bar.  As far as I could see Pat 3 just had the one speed and the fast forward button.

Map wise Patrician seems to have more to it in that the map in patrician 3 is larger and more diverse in the sense that its more mazey and inculdes traversable rivers.

Boats wise Port Royale has 4 ships to choose from compared to Pat 3's 3 ships and their seems to be more statistics for the boats in Port Royale such as stability and agility.  And the difference between the smallest and the biggest ships seems to be more significant both in stats and in price when campared to Pat 3.  I think the cheapest one was like 17k while the galleon, which is the biggest, is something like 177k.

Unlike Pat 3 there are two types of towns in Port Roayale.  You have you Governor towns, which there are few of, and then there are the colonial towns.  There are also 5 different types of goods in the game.  In the trade menu it sorts the 5 types by color coding the background alternatingly into 5 sections.  Oddly it didn't seem to indicate which section was which classification of goods though, but perhaps that dosen't matter since it only matters that they are different.  From what I recall the Governor towns can produce Essential Goods and Finnished Goods, while colonial towns can produce Raw Goods, Essential Goods and Colonial Goods.  Colonial goods are produced based on certain geographical locations.  So for example coffee, which is a colonial good, would be found produced in colonial towns that are in the south east part of the map. 

 Each town in the game can only produce upto 5 goods total.  And there does not seem to be any different classification of them like there is in Pat 3 where you have the normal production and low production goods listed in seperate catagories.  This may just be a interface difference though and not a machanical difference.

You also have Imported goods which come from convoys that come over from europe and trade with the governor towns.  You can do trade directly with these european convoys for these goods from what I understood.

I found the trade window in Port Royale to be a little easier to understand for someone who is not familiar with the price ranges in these games due in part to how they highlight goods in red that are at good selling prices.  However from what I noticed there doesn't seem to be a difference in unit size like there is in Pat 3 where you have individual barrels along with Loads.  In Port Royale everything is in same unit type.  So in this way it perhaps has dumbed it down a bit.

There is also 3 different zoom levels in Port Royale.  The standard (middle) zoom is much the same as Pat 3 but then you have a closer zoom which seems rather pointless as it makes everything pixelated, and also a further away zoom that is actually quite nice.  This is only for the town maps and not the world map.  Also I'm not sure if the screen resolution would cause the different zoom levels to scale from a different vantage point or not.  Would be nice if so.

Any ways, these are just some of the differences I noticed from my very brief play of the two games.

[City Builder]

Wow, thank you for the thorough breakdown of the two games.

I'll check out steam to see how much they want for it, if they are comparable to Amazon then I'll buy it as from what you've writtenVirmin, I seem to remember it must have been Port Royale 2 that I enjoyed the most, there were a couple features in Patrician III when I loaded it up this morning that I felt were missing but you've mentioned them in PR2 so that must be the game that I remember playing most.

Sadly, I picked up a virus/spyware/adware while trying to make the map editor in Pat 3 work and although my scanners and windows defender said that it got rid of everything, after a reboot the internet connection was dead even though windows troubleshooter said there was no problem with it, so I guess it's a good time to get it from where ever and install it.

Thanks,

[pad11]

CB, I think you'll find that the two games are drastically different.  I've played both for hours upon hours and Patrician 3 has more staying power.  The game's economic engine is stronger in my book and more realistic w/ less mundane time involved int he long process of becoming Alderman!

pat!

[fabg]

PR2 is more "streamlined"/ mainstreamed than Patrician 3.  The economy/ production system is easier and the seafight part is more important.
Though PR2 has some nice handling improvements, e. g.  auto trade.

. . .  and I love to kick the French out of the Caribbean Sea

[pad11]

. . .  and I love to kick the French out of the Caribbean Sea

nice!  Ditto that!

pat!

[Basho]

> Is Port Royale 2 the same as Patrician III?

No, that are different games.

Here in germany the Patrician series is called Die Patrizier:
Die Patrizier 2 = Patrician II
Die Patrizier 2: Aufschwung der Hanse (Add-On) = Patrician III

As you see the official add on to Patrizier 2 was published in Britain & USA as Patrician III. 
(Hence we have no Patrizier 3 here, we will jump directly from 2 to 4. )

BTW, PR2 was an entire disappointment for me (compared to PR1).  This game comes with a fixed resolution of
1024x768 which leads to the absurd result that PR1 still looks better on my PC than PR2.  Additionally, PR2
doesn't contain a multiplayer part.  As a full price game I consider PR2 as superfluous because it is nothing but a
mass-compatible version of PR 1.  However, now that it is so cheap you can buy it as a bug-free PR1, although
with limited resolution.

[City Builder]

Yeah I think it likely that I'll just put it off as I have a large monitor and things at 1024x768 really look terrible on my monitor, all sort of fuzzy and distorted.

Thanks for the information.