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« on: April 22, 2008, 01:39:28 AM »

Chronicles of Patrician III Multiplayer

Recently a revered fellow citybuilder decided to try Patrician III. This is a game I've held in high regard for many years.  So this Chronicle will eulogize an ongoing Saga.. newbie or not, Patrician III will take all players to task..as the forthcoming dialogue may confirm.

Along with recent developments..our honorable Administrator has provided me with the confidence to try some of the online Hosting services..in this case it is Hamachi..which surprisingly works really well.

This game..I've played endless hours, both single player and on LAN, and can attest the game has rarely crashed in those settings.  So taking a plunge into MP with another player..( Oregon Taz), who is practically my neighbor in the Southern part of Oregon..I'm kind of in the middle-westerly portion of the State.  Since she was playing..learning..what better way and opportunity to see how multiplayer works.  Here's our story:

We both have Hamachi..a requirement. I created the game and Ore Taz joined. All went fairly well, once all the little quirks of fiddling with something new was ironed out.  Finally the game announced it was ready to start.. Mmm?  I forgot that in LAN I never used the "chat".. so actually forgot How.. and thus this caused lack of communication which is necessary in Patrician III.  This lead to a restart and with all things considered it wasn't a big deal.. a real learning process. 

Once more we start a new game.  I'm in Stockholm (UC's there asking about a Celebration) and Ore Taz is in Luebeck ( a good City for a new player) to get a handle on Patrician III's economy and survival is the name of the early part of the game.  Ore Taz did really well.. had more cash than I did..and way sooner than I expected. The only upside I had..I had found two pretty good Captains right away.  This allowed me to autotrade sooner, but now that we knew how to exchange messages..we made a combined effort to find her a Captain too.  None were up in the North and I reported every port I visited.. so she finally found a Captain in a Western town.  We both were happy..now that we both are on a more even keel.. and not just referencing ships.

This is where we took a break from the game.  We are both close in stats and cash wise..I won't know the exact figures until the game is reconvended for another play session.  I certainly look forward to seeing Ore Taz progress to Mayor of Luebeck...maybe even further.  So stay tuned..

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These are in game criteria that will assist those who might be playing Patrician III MP.  There's plenty of preparation for Future days in this game.  So I'll try to expound on a few gameplay offerings that are unique to multiplayer.

1) Spreading the bargain basement priced goods. 

In this game..Luebeck is a target town for really cheap Wine.  If you are there at the right time, you can make a wonderful profit in any town on the way back to your Home town.  So as a suggestion to Ore Taz.. if she has a Warehouse manager, have him set to buy a certain amount of these low priced goods..so when you return home they will be waiting for you to distribute.  I do this with Whale Oil in Stockholm.  As the game progresses, this general strategy will work in towns that receive these product situations.

2) Worrying about Pirates early in the game.

In other threads I've commented on this.. and if it is possible to engage them early, that is a good thing.  In my Home town I start buying Cutlasses right away..because I want my main Captained ship to be sufficiently armed and the crew must be also.  You can save cash with minimum crews, but if you do run into a Pirate..and the worst thing that can happen is losing your ship..that's a huge setback.  Well armed and crewed ships usually escape..which is much easier to recover those repair bills than building a New ship.

3) Cooperation that is part of the multiplayer advantages.

This comes from many past game experiences.  As you gain favor in other towns, you rise in stature and as a Councilor you can vote and promote functions that occur in these town.  Plus you can assist your fellow (human) player to gain favor and recognition toward establishing their political careers ...they in turn can do the same for you.  Some of these instances can be discussed and be part of the "rules of the game" .. and should make the playing experience much more fun.  What the point is here..another player must realize that every players reputation is important in ALL the games Towns.  If I see another player Ship in my Town, I can only hope that they are gaining reputation in some way.

I could add more..but the post is already reaching catastrophic lengths..  If Oregon Taz and can somehow continue this game.. I intend to chronologically add more to the chronicles.  I do encourage comments and additional commentary from Ore Taz and any other players..members.. OR just curiosity seekers.  No one should worry about messing up this thread.. I can do that well enough all by myself..  Smiley Blink

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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2008, 02:14:12 AM »

I've just started playing Patrician 3 and I'm using Luebeck as my home town, but I cant buy Cutlasses in Luebeck ever, its always greyed out.   So what am I doing wrong?
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2008, 02:22:20 AM »

 Smiley Blink  Hi Cheeka

This is a common question for new players to the game.. and what usually happens is that you are not in your Home Town.  When you look at fresh new game Map..the City that is Blue is YOUR town.. and as you ADD Trading offices.more towns will allow you  to access the Weapons building.  (You select the Town you wish to start in at the beginning of the game.)

So if you only have ONE trading Office.. you should be able to buy Weapons in that Town.

If something else is going on.. please let me know and we'll figure this out.

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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2008, 03:09:27 AM »

I've just gone into my game again to make sure it was still not letting me have hand weapons and sure enough its greyed out still makes it difficult when I'm being attacked.  I also had a ship come into port held together with string after a battle I wasn't told was going on, a big surprise  for me that was.   
I'm wondering if I should reinstall the game to see if that makes a difference. 
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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2008, 05:46:16 AM »

 Smiley Blink  Mmm?  Let's see if you are expecting some types of Weapons ..before you can have them?  *explained at the end of the post*

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I've just gone into my game again to make sure it was still not letting me have hand weapons

The only Weapons you can buy from the Weapon Depot are for the Ship and crew.  IF you can't buy Catapults and Batista's..later bombards and cannons ..IF these aren't available then you are in trouble.. ( I can't imagine the game installation would miss something in this area..)

So have you been able to Equip your Ships with weaponry?  You can buy "blackmarket" items from the Weapons Trader who pops in and out of various Taverns.  Dealing with him usually leads to accusations and big FINE from the Hanseatic League..dealing with the underworld is frowned upon.  As a long time player..I don't recommend it to new players.

Let me know if you cannot buy ANY weapons.  Remember there's a difference between Swords and Cutlasses.. one belongs to the Sailors and the other is used by the Town Guards.  It's easy to note because the one is listed with the Ships weapons.

The rest of the Weapons cannot be bought until you become Mayor..and have to outfit the City Defenses.. so that TAB on the Weapon Depot remains *greyed* until you reach that Office.

Hope somewhere in this commentary..there's a shred of something that helps clear this up.  <fingers crossed>  Smiley Blink
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2008, 07:36:22 AM »

I got it sorted out don't know what was wrong but I re-installed it and all is well.    Thank you for trying to help  :)
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2008, 08:31:54 AM »

Welcome to the forum, Cheeka  Big Smiley Grin Laughing  As you will discover, this is a very laid back, friendly forum. We get lots of positive input and help, and people aren't afraid to voice a negative feeling (about a game) as they know they won't get flamed.

Excellent commentary on P3, Max  Agreed Happy  Agreed Happy

As a newbie to MP games, as well as P3. I stumbled when trying to chat. Looking around cautiously
I needed to click "enter" to open the chat input thingy at the bottom of the screen.

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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2008, 03:41:58 PM »

 Thumbs Up  Great you got it fixed Cheeka .. it would've been good to know what might've caused this.. just for an  "fyi" in assisting future players.

Like Taz mentioned.. we love our games and will discuss anything about them good or bad. 

Hope your playing stint in Patrician III is as rewarding as it was for me.  Keep us posted on your game experiences.   Smiley Blink
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2008, 08:52:06 PM »

I'm having trouble with my auto route, not sure the amount of good I should put in, I don't seem to make any money from them.    I've used the guide that MaxBeta wrote so the prices should be ok. 
 
Also when is the best time to go to the Med?
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2008, 09:01:14 PM »

 Hello and Welcome Hey Cheeka!

Sorry you're having problems! MaxBeta will be on line soon I would guess (he's a night owl..and so is Oregon Taz)! wink

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